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    While the second season of MLP:FIM had certainly left some crack in the brony community, the third season the series utterly shattered it. Fandom reactions of the third season have range from ecstatic praise to cynical loathing. For me, season three was initially pretty underwhelming, and that most of the episodes overall didn't hit that level of quality that seasons one and two hit. But looking back, I largely attribute it mainly to hype backlash, and the fact it was only thirteen episodes. Since then, season three has grown on me, and even then, this doesn't explain the incredible amount of hatred this season has garnered. I'm sure we probably all know about the infamous TGWTG contributor Chad Rocco aka CR. But while Chad had pretty much left the fandom by the time Equestria Girls was announced. There are still plenty of anti-season three fan members out and about. Let's discuss one by the username of Byter. For those who don't know, Byter is an MLP analysis/reviewer/critic from the UK. He's mostly known for co-hosting a podcast called Crepuscular Bronies Discuss, usually with fellow MLP analysis AnYPony. Much like CR, Byter also has a deep-rooted hatred of the third season of the MLP. And similarly, Byter's reasons for hating the third seasons are..."interesting". An example of what I mean by "interesting" can be found in his reviews. 
    In his review of "Too Many Pinkie Pie" he's tries to argue that Pinkie Pie was out of character and that she was no different from her clones. Looking at the episode, Pinkie Pie was not in any way acting, as he described her: zany, shallow, impotent and inconsiderate. Some have even argued that even if Pinkie did act how she is described in the review, this could be considered a strength as it makes the other Mane Six harder to sort out the real Pinkie from the clones. Many more critics (including CR) have pointed out how easy it was for rest of the Mane Six to differentiate who's who, and for them, it was glaring flaw. Byter also dives into how this episode (at least for him) had way too much "slapstick" compared to other episodes of the show. Now for everyone on this planet and since the origin of the word, slapstick has always been physical humor, such as getting hit in the groin or a pie to the face. Byter apparently believes that slapstick is "contrived situation for humor". When people called him out on this, Byter stated that definition of words are broad. Essentially, arguing that because he misused slapstick, there is now a new meaning to that word.
    Now onto his "Sleepless in Ponyville" review. In this one, he argues that the episode lacked depth, and that the episode was the most "verbose" in the entire series. Now ignoring the fact that it doesn't manage to even make it into the top forty, in terms of the amount of dialogue, how much depth did it have compared to other episodes of the show? If you're going to convince people that it lacked "depth", then you are going have to demonstrate how this episode lacks said depth. For example, you could take an episode from a past season and compare and contrast the two. Some reviewer even argued that the episode "Hurricane Fluttershy" could be a bad episode by using the exact same reasons that Byter used to explain why he didn't like Sleepless in Ponyville. Such as how Fluttershy was scared but afraid to show it, how it took the entire goddamn episode for her to overcome her fears, and how the cartoonish elements conflict with the episode's tone, such as Spike playing a pan flute, that character Snowflake constantly shouting "Yeah!!!", Fluttershy disguising herself as tree, the list goes on. I am pointing this out because it seems to convey that Byter is displaying a sort of double standard in his reviews. Essentially, that it's wrong for a season three episode to lack "depth", but it's okay for a season one/two episode to similarly lack "depth" as he describe it. 
    In his "Wonderbolt Academy" review, his biggest issue with the episode was that the Wonderbolts Academy was like a boot camp. Yes...that's his biggest problem with the episode... He also goes on and states that the Wonderbolts were never part of the military. And while it is true that it's never been outright stated that the Wonderbolts were part of the military, it is heavily implied that they maybe in fact are. Such as in the episode "Secret to my Excess" where they fight off Adult Spike, and in your own review you mention them fighting monster. Isn't that kind of a military to you? And even if you argue that they're just militia forces, they're still "the best flyers in all of Equestria". Maybe it's different in the UK, but here in North America, ask anyone in or was in the military, and they'll most likely tell you that the purpose of a boot camp to whip you into shape and to prove that you are capable. And considering that the Wonderbolts are "the best flyers in all of Equestria", they would be a team that would require the same amount of commitment and discipline as that of the military. On top of that Byter states that the Wonderbolts are a bunch of assholes, even when they realize their mistakes. This is a problem I have with a decent amount of fandom members since I've joined. Many seem to have this incredibly black and white viewpoint when it comes to morality. Basically, if one or more characters who you look up to or suppose to look up to, does something you consider morally wrong, then they are automatic irredeemable. This doesn't count for most antagonists as they're not characters who you're suppose to look up too. And in Byter's case, the Wonderbolt are irredeemable. In total, I can describe the review as this: This episode ruined MY, I mean Lauren Faust's vision of who the Wonderbolts are!
    These are just a few examples of the kind of arguments that Byter states about every episode from season three and (from what I can gather) beyond. So if you've read up to this point you may be wondering, "Why do we care what he think?" Well, the problem here is that Byter is just large slice of an even larger pie. That of which being a growing belief that MLP has declined in quality since its first or second season. Comparing Byter with CR, you can tell they both have quite a lot in common. Both believe that the third season doesn't hold up to Lauren's vision, and that she alone was what kept the series afloat. Both have used petty, idiotic, or just flat out false reasons for why the third season doesn't hold up to Lauren's vision. Both have taken potshots at members of the cast and crew (especially Meghan McCarthy). And both have accused anyone who questions them of harassment, mocking, and "not respecting other's opinions", while harassing, mocking, and "not respecting other's opinions". And based on the comments on CR's deviantart profiles (don't look, it's a cesspool), they're not the only ones who believed that. There's even an entire deviantart group that essentially made their one alternate continuity in which Twilight never got her wings and that "status quo is god". Out of all these pre-season three fans, Byter at this point is probably the most prolific of them. On top of that, he is also shown to incredibly pretentious and an ego with the size of Jupiter. If you had any bad experience with Byter or any other pre-season three fans, please let me know. Maybe ultimately, I'm over-exaggerating, but from the looks of it, Byter and the pre-season three fans are a serious issue, and at the very least, then must be knocked down peg. And if you're arguing that it's a matter of opinion. I'll say the definition slapstick is not a matter of opinion (and if was the word would be rendered meaningless because no one would know you're talking about), nor is the heavy implication that the Wonderbolt are part of the military, or at least some form of protection.

If you want to know about Byter you can read his reviews and analysis here: 

byter75.deviantart.com/journal�

You can also look these blog posts if you're interested in CR: 

www.fimfiction.net/blog/97116/� 

www.fimfiction.net/blog/115736�

Also check out this video which analyzes Byter's Too Many Pinkie Pies review: 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNR7Um�

And this video made by the same person:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN6vjn…

Oh, and here's that group I mentioned earlier: bronycanon.deviantart.com/
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I think you may have inspired me to do some responses to bad reviews on MLP episodes. I just saw some of a 10-part video series on youtube called "Byter's Bits", where Byter nitpicks the ever-loving crap out of the episode Sleepless in Ponyville, and boy were the bits I saw nothing short of facepalmery.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2014  Student General Artist
I'd like to see your responses.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I already have a few targets:

1. FlyingBrickAnimation- Unfunny jokes, untrue accusations, missing the point, stealing material from Nostalgia Critic, generally lackluster reviews.

2. Kwark85- Loves to whine, doesn't provide evidence to arguments, tells people what to think, obvious fanboy of unicorn Twilight and anything pre-season 3

3. Byter- Unnecessary nitpicking, misunderstanding of general concepts, missing the point, far too much detail for the good of the review, overall taking himself and the show way too seriously.
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MunkTransformerLover Featured By Owner Edited Apr 9, 2015  Student Artist
"1. FlyingBrickAnimation- Unfunny jokes, untrue accusations, missing the point, stealing material from Nostalgia Critic, generally lackluster reviews."

TEAR. HIM. APART. PLEASE.

He is without a doubt one of the worst critics I've ever seen in this fandom, as well as one of the worst critics PERIOD I've ever seen. Not funny, painful to read, always copying the Nostalgia Critic's style but claiming he doesn't like him and reviews better than him after seeing his Matrix review (egotistical much?), and always so nitpicky, seeking out any tiny flaw he can find just so he has something to bash.

Can't analyse to save his life. Need I mention his terrible reviews of It Ain't Easy Being Breezies, Equestria Games and Twilight's Kingdom? He thinks IAEBB teaches the same lesson Putting Your Hoof Down does even though they're completely different (PYHD: "Know how to be assertive without coming across as unpleasant". IAEBB: "It's okay to be kind but you need to know when to be firm to be kind".) Not to mention his "analysis" on why Seabreeze sucks. He mentioned on a forum he and the Breezies suck just because they have high pitched voices (due to being tiny like loads of tiny characters in media, which he never even considers) and their accents (due to them being Equestrian versions of Sidhe (or Seelies), also known as Faeries or Fairies). And he even went on a petty rant about Seabreeze sucking, saying "People in the fandom piss me off when they say he's the manliest character on the show just because he has a wife and kid-HIS NAME IS F*CKING SEABREEZE! It sounds like an air freshener!" (Yeah, great reason to hate someone: just because of their name. I hope he never has kids. "No, son, you can't like or be friends with that boy, because his name is Gary. That sounds like a preschool teacher!") Oh, and his "incredibly mature" insult to Seabreeze: an "asshole dickhead douchebag". One, do you ever consider WHY he's acting jerky? Maybe because his comrades are lazing about and he wants to get home to his wife and child who he might never see again? And two, that sounds like a combo a toddler would come up with after learning those words for the first time ("Mommy, he's being an asshole dickhead douchebag!")

Also he ever goes in depth about why he practically thinks all the songs from MLP suck including really good ones like Apples To The Core and You'll Play Your Part, just that they're "bland" or "terrible" and nothing else. Yeah, what about instrumentals? What about tone? What about telling the story? What about the vocals? What about the lyrics? Anything?

Another thing that bugs me is that he's incredibly immature and petty. Like his response to Hasbro after watching Keep Calm and Flutter On: "F*CK YOU, HASBRO. BLABLABLABLABLA, This episode could've ruled the world and you blew it! BLABLABLABLABLA None of your fans need a friendship lesson! Think of the fans! BLABLABLABLABLA" Oh, yes, because that's all the show is about: just giving the fans what they want. I mean, it's not like there are still little girls who watch this show, regardless of the adult fans who also do. And get this, when discussing their least favourite Season 4 characters on a forum, he actually hoped someone in the comments would die of herpes if they said they liked Seabreeze. Oh, and he posted a journal entry screaming to "BOYCOTT JERRY PEET!", all because Jerry Peet's recent Rainbow Rocks Honest Trailer parody started with a joke that practically ANYONE can make: "From the toy company that brought you films like Battleship, G.I. Joe and the Transformers movies". Yep, just a joke that anybody can make about Hasbro and he went ranting that Jerry Peet "stole his joke". Speaking of Equestria Girls, in his own Honest Trailer parody, he mentioned that some bronies liked the movie and then called the other half who didn't like it "everyone with an IQ above Challenged".

Bottom line: Terrible critic, one of the worst I've ever seen, and frankly the less I can remember of him, the better.

.......Whoa. For a second, I almost lost my mind from all that ranting.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I agree that he's not a good reviewer, but considering a few things, I think I've recently seen worse. The reason I say that is because I commented that I was going to do some responses to Kirb, and he actually said that he would love me to do them, believe it or not. Truth be told, when I found out about him, I was angry at him as much as you are, but he's become lighter in my eyes since then. Of course, that doesn't mean I like his work, he still comes off as one of those people who try to complain about things just for the sake of complaining, and seems really biased in some areas.

In fact, you know what, since you seem to know more about him then I do, would you mind pointing me towards some of those things you mentioned, and maybe a little more so I can get a better understanding of Kirb and try to decide what I should respond to? Like I said, I think he's grown from where he was a year-and-a-half ago, but that's not saying much.
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MunkTransformerLover Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015  Student Artist
Sure:

flyingbrickanimation.deviantar…

His quote from the forum Unpopular Opinion Time, page 546:

"…y’know what? I’ve already said this before but I think I can go on with it.
FUCK THE BREEZIES.
They are just the worst thing to have ever happened to season 4. I hate them. I hate everything about them.
I hate that they came from G3. I hate that the writers are now pulling shit from previous generations and throwing it in here, especially the shitty-ass piece of bullcrap that is known as G3.
I hate the episode "It Ain’t Easy Being Breezies." Why did it need to exist? There were tons of other ways that Fluttershy could’ve received her key of harmony. The episode itself only teaches the exact same moral as "Putting Your Hoof Down," only with a lot more annoyance.
I hate their designs. They’re supposed to look cute, but they look like something I can just step on and squash. Up close, they look creepy as all hell.
I hate their voices. Why did DHX have to make them sound like Alvin and the fucking Chipmunks?! And why do they have those annoying Swedish accents? And let me get this straight, this is NOT meant as a slam against people with Swedish accents. It IS meant as a slam against Canadian voice actors doing obnoxiously, insultingly over-exaggerated Swedish accents, and then pitching them up to sound like Fred fucking Figglehorn.
I hate how manipulative little brats the Breezies were.
I hate that the mane 6 were turned into Breezies. Why did that need to fucking happen?
But most of all? I hate Seabreeze. I hate that little asshole dickhead douchebag, the most overrated character from season 4 in my mind. I hate how when I make ONE joke about Seabreeze, a shitload of Dragon Ball Z fans come attacking me because he’s voiced by the same guy from that overrated show. I hate how they act as if he’s the "manliest character on the show" just because it’s shown that he has a wife and kid—HIS NAME IS FUCKING SEABREEZE! IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING AIR FRESHENER! Bottom line, fuck Seabreeze, fuck the Breezies."

His quote from Unpopular a Opinion Time, page 585, when asking someone why they weren't a fan of Maud:

"Note: if you say Seabreeze is better I hope you die of herpes—and you can’t even die of herpes."

His "deductive reasoning" on why he thinks bronies hate Mare-Do-Well (all of which aren't even the main reasons):

flyingbrickanimation.deviantar…

His complaint towards Jerry Peet "stealing his joke" (Equestria Girls Honest Trailer with "everyone with an IQ above Challenged" line included):

flyingbrickanimation.deviantar…

And of course, my best picks for his sorry excuses for "critical analysis":

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flyingbrickanimation.deviantar… (I personally told him what made the episode strong, especially the moral, and he just replied with "Eh, I didn't like it cos Flim and Flam were in it.")

flyingbrickanimation.deviantar… (It's a great Spike episode with a very important moral ("you are your own worst critic")! And it's not like we see NONE of the games whatsoever, Ponyville was only competing in one event. Focusing just of Rainbow and the games would've made this a rehash of Rainbow Falls!)

And of course:

flyingbrickanimation.deviantar… (I mean, f*cking WOW. "Predictable plot"? Twilight's library blowing up, that battle, the Mane Six going Super Saiyan and Discord giving Twilight her key was predictable? "Fight rips off Matrix 3"? Clearly you don't know that A, any fight can use these tropes, and B, all these fighting tropes like the laser beams, slamming into the ground, smashing through mountains are all DBZ elements. "Songs were crap"? Yeah, go read the description on Rainshadow's video for You'll Play Your Part, kid. "Characters acting OOC" How? How? Explain, will ya?!)

As far as I'm concerned, he might as well change his name to Don't-Want-Change McBitch'n'Moan.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
If I ever get down to making those responses, I'll use your comment as reference. I'm still not sure if I want to respond, yet. Not because I'm scared, but I'm kinda busy with other things and don't have the drive for it right now.
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MunkTransformerLover Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Student Artist
Of course, take all the time you need.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Byter is just a joke these days. Any time he comes up with a review, the fan base laughs at it because of how overly picky he is. He makes DigiBrony and Chad Rocco look tamed in comparison to what he does.

I haven't checked any of his reviews due to the fact they'll just give me a headache, but did he spend his time bashing Season 4 and hate on the finale, and call the infamous fight scene 'filler' like Digi did?
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Those three are all jokes at this point. 
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Basically. I don't know about Tommy Oliver, he suffers the same aspects as Digi.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Only he isn't a laughing stock.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think Tommy is just disliked because he acts so smug, and has all the traits that DigiBrony (Oh I'm sorry, Digibro as he calls himself now) has.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Also not to mention, Tommy was once called BronyCurious. I guess if you're a rising internet star and you're persona name has the word "brony" in it, you need to alter it somehow.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow -_-. Ironic huh.

The only thing I give him for a slight thing is his video on Applejack.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Student General Artist
I hate to admit it. But I was once a fan of him before I discovered Mr. Enter. 
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
From what I've read of Byter, he sounds a lot like a Youtube user by the name of 9752matt. He and Byter have similar ideologies, in that they both want to keep finding things to hate about MLP:FIM and misunderstand a lot of things.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Student General Artist
From looking at his channel, I don't see anything that shows he's against post-season two MLP:FIM.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
He's shown his prejudice through comments mostly. A lot of the videos he commented on have been taken down, but he still has a Google account, which I'm sure you can find just by entering his name in the search bar. In fact, read his comments on a few videos of Twilight's Kingdom, and then read the most recent one after them. plus.google.com/10101000148760…. I think you'll see a bit of hypocrisy here.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Student General Artist
From looking through it it, yeah I can see he's a nitpicky jerk, but not really to the extent of that of Byter and even Digi.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I don't really follow Digi, but I've heard he hasn't been fair with his videos these days. You want a nitpick, look up this guy named FlyingBrickAnimation, and look at his Pinkie Apple Pie review, or "Everything Wrong with It", as he calls it. The moment I saw him make a big deal about Pinkie's name in the title being misspelled, I lost a lot of credibility for him. Of course, he may have been joking, but something like that is only a nitpick, and it wasn't even that funny to me. Also, he acknowledged being hypocritical about that, since he apparently misspells things sometimes, but my issue is more about complaining about something that has no effect on the episode in the first place. It just seems like he was trying too hard to be funny.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Student General Artist
With all seriousness. the only MLP analysis I wholeheartedly trust at this point are Silver Quill and The Mysterious Mr Enter. If you want fair and non-nitpicky reviews that don't try too hard to be funny, you should check them out.
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natz-fan Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014
Canned Cream is also good. At least in my opinion.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Never heard of him.
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huntergregory Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
There's also Dr. Wolf.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Student General Artist
I guess...
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KurseofKings Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
"There's even an entire deviantart group that essentially made their one alternate continuity in which Twilight never got her wings and that "status quo is god"." Where can I find that group?
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I still can't believe something like this exists. Are people really this braindead to not accept Twilacorn?
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huntergregory Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I'm afraid there are more than just that group to worry about.
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HenryIndiana Featured By Owner May 7, 2014
I honestly think :icondisneymaster: made a bigger impact on the fanbase than Byter did, he started an Anticorn movement to get Hasbro to change Twilight back to a Unicorn.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Student General Artist
Did he believe that the show was declining in quality before Twilight becoming an alicorn was announced? Even still, Byter is just an example of what kind of people I'm talking about. 

Also, what's with the "TGWTG: The only place where idiots that scream about stupid things are hailed as the next Aristotle" thing?
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HenryIndiana Featured By Owner May 7, 2014
I don't believe so.

Do you take offense to it?
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Student General Artist
Then I guess he's not as Byter and Chad Rocco who both believe the series began declining in quality as early as the season 3 premiere at the latest.

And speaking of Chad, just because he's irrational, ignorant, and hypocritical doesn't mean everyone on that site is.
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HenryIndiana Featured By Owner May 7, 2014
Eh, I stopped watching Nostalgia Critic after Bart's Nightmare.
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ShadesofGrey18 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013
I can't believe I actually used to consider that guy's opinions that much.

One of my friends, on the Wonderbolt Academy review, gave his credentials with the military and Byter basically completely ignored it and continued thinly veiling attacks on him. I didn't like that episode very much either (As someone who felt the episode was horribly paced, there was too much Pinkie, the 'Bolts kind of felt incompetent (again), and hates the 'Drill Sergeant Nasty' trope and the military in general), but I wouldn't go to the lengths he does. He's just... kind of a parasite and a disgrace to the art of critique, in my eyes.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I did see CR mentioned a bit about the bronies after Season 4 came out...But knowing him,he'll just go: "SEASON 4 SUCKS, MEGHAN KILLED THE SHOW FOR ME!!!OH MY LUNA, THE CONSTANT CRAP OF TWILIGHT'S WINGS SUCKED.I AM SUPERIOR TO OTHERS AAHAHAHAH!!!"

And I've checked Byter's newest review of 'Princess Twilight', he's STILL as negative as before. Granted he said it wasn't 'the worst episode of the show', but he's still pretty negative about it.

In my eyes..Chad and Byter are this butt hurt jerkasses who are still crying in the corner over Lauren's departure. While I do miss Lauren on the show, it's STILL going and being very entertaining. Hell, Season 3 to me was while clunky and there was a lack of continuity, it was STILL enjoyable for me. And hell, I friggen LIKE the idea of Twilacorn. My only complaint was that it came out TOO SOON. If they, especially Larson waited a little longer, then there wouldn't be a problem. But still, I like Twilacorn AND season 3.

Unfortunately this dumb butts don't have anymore logic than to whine and bitch about how Lauren isn't involved in the show.What they NEED to see is that despite her departure, the writers still have some good ideas. They don't suffer the stupidity like Spongebob does. They find ideas to mix for the younger audience AND for their fan base, something (and I'm only using this as an example) Spongebob writers don't do, they just want to appear to the younger, new audience and take away all the likability of the characters.

Over all, CR is a whiney grown up jack ass and Byter is just a picky critic, and they both whine for the return of Faust, which I highly doubt won't happen seeing how Lauren's doing Wander Over Yonder.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Student General Artist
To be fair, Chad actually did say that he didn't if Lauren left or not. He still acts kind of wacko, but look at this if you want to know what I'm talking: i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/o…

Yeah, if Chad actually gave a rat's ass, he'd probably be a much more scarier opponent than Byter, because unlike Byter, Chad isn't pretentious nor has an insanely massive ego. Plus, considering the type of comments that Chad and others post on his Deviantart profile page. They think of us as the delusional whiny assholes.

Also, the problem with Spongebob's writers isn't them trying to target a younger audience, but the exact opposite. According the guy who made that response video to Byter, they're aiming at adult, even though Spongebob's main demographic is children. And even if Spongebob was aimed at adults, it's still terrible.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh I've seen that before...and good lord did it make me lose respect for the guy. It shows how much of a picky jackass he and ESPECIALLY Byter are. Like...why can't they just get the hell over themselves and say "And DESPITE it's flaws...the season is still good'.So many fans are already growing to like the Twilacorn aspect thankfully, and even now are giving Season 3 the benefit of a doubt.

And it fails horribly. I sometimes get into discussions with a friend of mine named Brian about how Spongebob keeps going "A NEW SPONGEBOB SPECIAL!!!", when it's just a stupid 30 minute episode. We both were surprised and annoyed as hell when even YAHOO was like "THIS NEW SPONGEBOB SPECIAL ABOUT SPONGEBOB GETTING FIRED IS EPIC". The writer keeps getting worse, and worse, and worse each time and it just feels like it's dying like the stupid blank expression Spongebob does every time. 
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Student General Artist
I highly doubt any of them are going change, no matter how much evidence there is that supports our side. Like I said, Chad is way more interesting than Byter if ask me, because unlike Byter, his isn't the type the person who would be selective, petty, or irrational the way he treats the series nowadays. Furthermore, what reasons has he given that weren't (like I said) nitpicky, misinformed, or just plain wrong. And didn't Twilight EARN the title of "princess"?

Really at this point, Nickelodeon is just dying a slow, painful death. From what I've heard, Avatar: The Legend of Korra is the only thing of substance on that channel.
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much. Chad is interesting, but both he and Byter have the same problem: They hate the show just because of how it changes, and it's sad to see them NOT ACCEPT these changes. MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!In 'Cutie Mark Chronicles', Celestia says she had never seen such 'raw magic' from Twilight. So I had a feeling Twilight was going to become something big later on. And when it happened, I was pretty shocked, but accepted it.Unlike Chad and Byter, who ACTED as if they showed Rule 34 pictures for 22 minutes.

Sadly. Oh yes it is. I really get annoyed when I talked to my friends about Korra, and they're like "OH LEGEND OF KORRA SUCKS". I just wanted to grab my backpack and SMACK THE BOTH OF THEM REPEATEDLY with it. Their reasons on hating on it were two: A rational one and a bull one:

The rational - The show is inferior to the original. I kinda did agree on that, but it was a good change from it.

The Bull - 'IT'S ALL ABOUT TEEN DRAMA'. 
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Student General Artist
If the show remained static without any form of change and followed the same formula throughout, which Byter and Chad seem to wish had happened instead. Then the series would become stale and repetitive. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Twicorn, I'm still trying to figure out why so many are saying MLP is suffering from seasonal rot, and why their reasons tend to be either dismissible, didn't make sense, or just wrong. And when we ask for an answer that made sense, we get accused of "not respecting our/their opinion/viewpoint".
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So much...It comes to show you how closed minded people can be about change. For me, if the change works to the show (which it ALWAYS does me, and not just in shows, but for music), then I don't mind.

It really does suck people just can't accept Twilacorn at this point. I STILL SEE PEOPLE DOING "I HATE TWILACORN.HERE,LET ME DRAW THIS PICTURE OF TWILIGHT SUFFERING JUST BECAUSE SHE TOLD CELESTIA SHE WASN'T GONNA BE A PRINCESS ANYMORE'.
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TalonsofIceandFire Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Also, you should read these comments on Chad's deviantart profile: comments.deviantart.com/4/1921…
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Erika54 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
And so it begins! The beginning of the end! The Seven Plagues of the Internet shall soon spawn and will engulf all who do not repent their wrong-doings.
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LethalAuroraMage Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Please calm yourself and look at what you are doing. It is ok to disagree with his opinion and even dislike his method of explaining it, but you are also fueling personal hatred for a man you have most likely never interacted to in an in-formal environment, such as skype or personal messages. It may have not been your intention, but looking at the comments of your journal people are making plans to spread irrational hate for the guy simply because he thinks differently then others. You are encouraging cyber-bullying simply because he disagrees with your opinion. Is that fair? How wold you feel if your opinion would be in the minority and people would spread your name around, telling others to loathe you because you do not agree with them? I feel like there is absolutely no rational reason to hate him this much. Do you believe yourself righteous? Do you believe yourself just for ganging up on a single man, simply because you dislike what he has to say? Do you feel proud? What do you want to happen? Do you wish to silence him? Do you wish to make the cyber-bullying so bad that he will be forced to leave the fandom, if not the internet itself because everyone will be attacking him left and right for no rational reason other than 'everyone else is doing it'? What will you gain from such a victory? Will you feel better about yourself that you were a part of psychological torture to a man who dared to speak differently? Will it help you sleep at night, knowing you're ruining someone's life because they're doing something they legally have the right to do?

I apologize if none of this was your intention, but this is what it will lead to. At the time of writing there were only 7 comments on your journal, but from these I can already see the seeds being planted, after all, I only found this journal because it was suggested to my group's 'featured' folder. This suggestion is basically asking every single group owner to say 'yes, I do hate byter, and so should you'.

Lastly, I suggest trying to talk to byter and go over the points you disagree with with him personally. I have talked to him about each of these episodes and when hearing his opinions said live and directly to me, I couldn't help but agree with most of his points. From the way you describe his points I can't help but see how you misinterpret or misunderstand his points, making others create a biased opinion on his reviews.

In the end, all I am asking you is not to hate on a man just because you cannot seem to agree with him. He is a good person, but it is so easy to jump on him with hate because of his reputation and his unique way of interacting. I myself argue with him almost on a daily basis about many things, but I never found a reason to dislike him as a person, because he never means to offend, he's just hard to understand sometimes. I'm not asking you to love him, but is tolerating such a hard ting to do?
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saltyoven Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013
Like said before, it isn't his opinions that bother me, it's that he has his facts wrong.  Second, if he's hating on everyone else and for having differing opinions and slandering people who work on the show every six seconds, then the point of hating on him is moot.  If he won't respect others opinions, and he makes himself out to be an insufferable jackass, then why should we respect his opinions?  Third, he can't take criticism.  Don't believe me?  If he sees someone try to debate him on his deviantart journals, he blocks them.  Because he has this opinion.  "They don't know what they're talking about.  My reviews are perfect!  People who don't like my reviews can go fuck themselves because I only want good comments."  For evidence on why he's an ass, just look at Digibrony's and byter's words the the Just for sidekicks CBD in the comments.  It's just calling him out on it, the same way joshscorcher called out Bhaalspawn on his poorly done TF2 review.  Finally this really isn't about byter.  It's about how so many people have this double standard, and accuse season 3 of things the show has always been doing in the first place which is totally unfair.  What does that remind you of?  Oh yeah!  It's the obnoxious genwunner fanbase all over again!  And all of this is coming from someone who thinks the episode in question is overrated.
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LethalAuroraMage Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really don't know how to go about the way to tell you that your opinion on byter is horribly inaccurate. Do not point me to 'examples' of his behavior, I am no stranger to him unlike you are, I do not need videos of him arguing with others nor comments where he argues with others to shape my opinion of him. I interact with the guy almost daily and he treats me no different than any other person he meets. We argue daily and if there's anyone who knows how byter really is, it's me. And with all the frustrations my arguments with him have caused me, I can safely say he is not a jackass of any sort. He does not hate anyone, even the ones who attack him with hate themselves. He is a good person who is not afraid to speak his mind. He can get quite negative in his reviews, yes, but when I hear him explain his opinions to me personally, I end up seeing his reasons and agreeing with his logic. I will not claim he is never wrong... msny times he has told me that he does not believe he is always right, but he will debate with people who want to prove him wrong and defend his point of view thoroughly. If you manage to prove him wrong, he will retract his point and agree with you. Most people ragequit before they get there, thought, and then peg him as a stubborn hater. Before you go 'he just blocks you if you speak up' it is not true. He blocked one person that left a comment on your journal not because they were making points he couldn't argue with, it was because they were spamming the living daylights out of him, digging up old comments he has left on youtube videos and replying to long dead conversations he was never a part of. Not only is that spamming, it's stalking and quite obvious display of cyber bullying. He has the full right to block people like that, and with how much hate he's been getting for no good reason, I wouldn't be surprised he gets quite a few of those cyber bullies. Oh, and, don't say that this isn't about byter if all you talk about in your journal -is- byter. There are bigger problems in the fandom then a guy who doesn't like something. Why not wage war against guys who sexually and verbally harass female pony cosplayers? Or those people who openly and unarguably display hate most foul to the show and it's fan base?

Lastly, I have no idea who Bhaalspawn nor genwunner is and only recently subbed to joshscorcher, so in the future if you wish to make your points more valid, refrain from namedropping, as you cannot guarantee I will know what you are talking about, making your points meaningless.
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redwallfanforever Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013

For me, Byter has a few interesting things to say in his journal reviews but I don't agree with a lot of things since I do like episodes like Sleepless In Ponyville and Wonderbolt Academy.

 

Compared to CR, he isn't that bad. I mean, CR seriously wanted to bash Season 3 with that awful cameo for the Nostalgia Critic's review of Son Of The Mask. I mean what was funny about:

 

CR: Is that your dad? Tell him I blame him for that *Squee* abomination of a 3rd Season!

Girl: Dad, CR blames you for the *dad cuts off the internet connection* Where are we going?

Dad: Come on, I'm going to show you an evil worse than Hasbro!

Girl: OOH!

 

You got to give byter some credit for not doing a ridiculous skit that makes many fans sigh at what he just did there. Chad Rocco clearly should have backed off there because I don't think the hate mail he surely received after was worth it. Also I've watched a couple of CBD videos and he doesn't display really bad behavior, maybe it's something that's more off in comment form.

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